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What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. They are two totally separate things. Of course, if you stop there, you guarantee that you win and lock in the profit. It's been discussed within the forum on occasions, although all of the APs here won't touch it due to it's high HE - around eleven times that of the main bet in a six deck shoe, and over twice that of the 37 notched wheel of fortune. I have however spent quite a few hours on the , table in the private room to the right of the mahog room where there are two tables. My estimation was he invested more than K on this side bet alone and got about 10K back. If they only pay 25 to 1 for PP, the house edge will be higher. Also, with a greater chance of pulling a 20 or BJ, does that justify making a smaller side bet covered by the increased main bet made in line with the count? PP do appear often here in Queensland casinos and the payout is 30 to 1 I believe this is the highest available. Get enough money ready to continue playing this way for at least 7 times consecutively on 7 separate days , and you will see the result if only 1 or 2 times, luck plays a major role. Even one night you lose everything, most of time you will win and cover all your losses of that night, plus profits. One of the theoretical questions has been, is there a point when counting cards that that the count will be so high, the probability of pulling a pair, matched coloured pair or perfect pair becomes such that the odds are in favour of making this side bet? Log in. Compare this to three card poker where the combined HE is around c5. If you're playing PPs in a game serviced with a CSM, then there will be no high count as such, and so no increased edge in the main bet to offset the edge in the side bet. If you were applying, say, a betting ramp, at a very high count you'd be betting 12 units rather than just 1 unit as it is prudent to do when playing a CSM flat betting. Also, I do not agree with your theory of "increased edge in the main bet to offset the edge in the side bet". Search forums. Thread starter garygo Start date Oct 10, According to my experience, the majority of time when I play BJ with CSMs, at lease one Perfect Pairs appears within hands , plus many other pairs coloured pairs and mixed pairs. If you are lucky enough to catch a couple of PP or even coloured pairs in the second round, you win big. Log in Register. My goal is to win more times than lose in the long run, not to win every time. If you like, you can use a very small amount of money to give it a test with the above mentioned strategy to see if it works. Therefore, I play PP only under this condition. There is the dichotomy that the edge on the side bet reduces as more decks are in play, but then the frequency of seeing the count that justifies making the bet reduces as well. Search Advanced search…. However, I continue playing even I catch a PP. The more decks in the machine, the more edge you have in playing PP. You are going to catch at least one PP somewhere along the way plus other pairs. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So to sum it up: 1 Play PP when there is only one box. Perhaps the answer would be to develop a revised count, or have a team of players keeping the count on specifc card types. If you lose, you lose what you have won, or in the worst case, you lose your original budget limited to 30 hands play - no more than that. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. With the high house edge on the side bet, and a neg EV on the main game, I think your losses will eventually outstrip your winnings - the maths suggest so, even though at present you may be up on the deal. If your results are different, it's probably solely down to variance and a relatively small statistically speaking sample size. I've said the reason in my main post more cards removed from the shoe, more HE. The continuous shuffling effect will, in theory, increase the possibilities of pairs popping out as cards are recycled though, and it would be interesting to see what a computer simulation throws up and if, and by how much, the edge on the side bet reduces. You could even bet max minus one and one unit on the PP when the count hit the threshold whatever it might be so the amount bet remained at 12 - but this would reduce the EV a tad. I have yet another strategy which I will not try until I have big enough bankroll for consistent play. I've read through your post twice and, correct me if I'm mistaken, it looks as if you are applying a progression system of sorts. In the long run, you are more likely to be a winner. Search titles only. If I catch a Perfect Pair within this range, I will: 1 either stop playing and pocket the money; 2 or continue playing, until I lose everything back, or reach my win or loss limit or time limit for my main BJ play, whichever is earlier. Remember it is very likely for you to get other types of Pairs within this 30 hands range also, which means you win "Free Spins" for that Perfect moment does it sound like Jackpot with Gaming Machine? But like I said, use the progression betting once at a time to control the risk. Stick to it. I think the answer is yes, although the count would have to be so high the frequency of seeing it would be minute. Also, it is better to play PP with CSMs, not shoe games, as the more cards are removed from the shoe, the lower chance you will catch a pair. I would like to see debate about this, but I will appreciate reasoning, not assertion. The bets are indeed totally independent, but I was suggesting using the advantageous edge bet of one to offset the bet of the other returns wise. If you accept that progressions have a nil effect on the HE you should, they do , then you'll continue to play against a pretty hefty HE, less the continuous shuffling effect. So if you chicken out with the first PP, the consequence could be that your win will not cover your possible losses in your future play. New posts. I've got my edge figures from the Wizard of Odds web site, and Mr Shackleton's calculations are noted to be pretty sound. I will be interested to see computer simulation on this betting strategy and also test my One Box theory Personally I don't think card counting works for PP. This is strictly my personal first-hand experience after numerous BJ plays, but if anyone out there can prove this theory, it will be fascinating. How are we going to ensure cards will come out as pairs which precisely arrive at your box and they will be exactly the first two cards dealt to you? I know people would ask: what if you lose everything both rounds? Although I haven't actually played this way, I kept recording what occurred to me for PP play when I was watching instead of playing it , which proves this theory works. I assessed him as an novice level counter who bet very aggressively when the TC was high.

Forums New posts Search forums. On a signal every player at the table could put out bets on the perfect pairs in addition to the usual betting ramp from counting. If you win in the beginning of this second round, you win back everything you lose in the first round plus profits.

This is to apply the Martingale betting system to the PP play, which we will never use for normal BJ play. Good luck. I reckon the reason is cards are not so much spread out when more than one box is opened, you need more luck for your box to get that PP. I prefer the aggressive option, but you can make your own choice.

My strategy for playing Perfect Pairs 30 to 1 payout. It is quite possible you win a Perfect Pairs or even more, or quite a few other Pairs to equal a Perfect Pairs, within your budget 30 hands play.

Within hands range with progression betting, it is very likely you catch at least one PP plus other pairs along the way to make you a possible winner. I doubt that card counting will ever work for PP bet. I never make the bet myself, although it's fascinating how often people do seem to get blackjack perfect pair probability on the and odds whenever I play for a couple of hours or so.

What does this mean? The reason is it is not very unusual to see many PP happen close to one another, and you are actually using the money you win with the initial PP to gain maximum profits, which can be really rewarding.

I dont think he even got more than one coloured pair either. Blackjack perfect pair probability you ought to consider applying your progression at the 3CP table? Thank you for your reply Newb But according to my own first hand experience, it doesn't seem to be that high. One PP means a 30 to 1 payout here in Queenslandwhich is a very good return and it is not uncommon that PP come into my hands several times within a short period.

But remember, it is much easier to get PP than Jackpot, for the simple reason of much lower house edge. So the win rate on the higher count, with the higher bet, would go some way to covering the costs of the high edge on the side bet. Blackjack perfect pair probability Perfect pair I was quoting for 6 deck which is virtually the standard in the UK.

It means if you can catch one PP within 30 hands, you win or at least get even depending blackjack perfect pair probability where in the process you catch that PP.

There are simply too many possibilities, and compared to the very strict and accurate match of FIRST two cards, high-low card counting is way too rough and even irrelevant.

I have always viewed it as another form of roulette to be avoided. Charles Wells Member Oct 14, PP at crown Hi there Thank you newb99 for such a detailed analysis of this side bet.

If you win towards the end of this second round, you are still slightly better off than you stop at the first round. So if you used to play things like Big Wheel or Gaming Machine, play PP instead, which will give you a of blackjack punjabi bagh better edge.

Its interesting that the casino staff do not partypoker contact any heat in this private room even to players going from bets to 10,

You bet on PP not because the edge in the main bet is high, but PP itself is worth playing if it is not, you never play it, unless you just want to try your luck. Either the count is high or low, it does not determine your cards will likely come out a pair, does it? If you add the two HEs together, you're playing a game with a combined HE of c6. A totally independent bet. If you win, you win big. On big gambling nights eg Derby day after midnight you will see real money thrown around esp on bacc but I digress.